A Reaction: Harris’s Non-Answers on Abortion

Why won’t she just answer the question? Because she want’s abortion up until birth, following in lockstep with the rest of the pro-abortion agenda.

On this episode of the Mark Harrington Show, Mark reacts to Vice Presidents Harris’s abortion non-answers on Face the Nation this past week. While both Harris and the host, Margaret Brennan are both on the pro-abortion side of the aisle, credit must be given to Brennan for pressing Harris on where abortion limits should be set. She asked the question multiple time, and Vice President Harris gave the same diverted answer. You can see the entire interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4F_wJlc6rg

On the second half of the program, Mark takes us back to the basics, by sharing his town-hall presentation on The Reality of Abortion. America has been fed the lie that abortion is just harmless medical procedure that will make women’s lives better and happier. The truth however, is far more tragic for the mother, and, of course, deadly for the child.

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Mark Harrington (00:00):

Vice President Kamala Harris gives non-answers on abortion on the program Face the Nation. We will talk about those today on the program. Also, we’re going to get back to basics. We’re going to be talking about abortion procedures so that you can be able to talk to anybody you know about what happens to a baby during an abortion


Activist radio. The Mark Harrington show is brought to you by Created Equal, and you go to Good created equal.org to find out more. You can also donate to our work. As you all know, we’re fighting this abortion amendment here in the state of Ohio, and on November 8th, we’re going to be voting to Enshrine, possibly enshrine abortion into the state constitution. So we’re all in here at Created Equal Running the Door-to-Door campaign all across the state of Ohio, and I’ll talk about that a little bit later. But before we get to that, I want to talk about this interview, if you want to call it that, a Vice President Kamala Harris, who was on Disgrace the Nation or what is commonly known as Face the Nation program on the weekends. And she was asked some questions on abortion and failed to answer any of them. So we want to go through this and respond and react to what she said. Now, this is on again Face the Nation, which is the national program on Sunday mornings on C B Ss News with Margaret Brennan. So go ahead and play the clip. This is again, Kamala Harris talking about abortion.

Margaret Brennan (01:44):

So what is it that you believe? I mean, what week of pregnancy should abortion access be cut off?

Kamala Harris (01:52):

We need to restore the protections of Roe versus Wade, which was we’re not trying to do something new.

Margaret Brennan (01:58):

Well, that was nebulous because it was about viability.

Mark Harrington (02:01):

Alright, I’ll stop there. Listen, this is going to be really nauseating for most of you. She basically is asked the same question four times and she gives the same non-answer four times. What is Kamala Harris hiding? She basically says, you got to give credit to Margaret Brennan because she asked her the question, where do we draw the line when it comes to abortion? What are Democrats saying? Are there any limits to abortion? That’s the question. And Kamala Harris refuses to answer it by giving this non-answer that we are trying to bring back the protections of Roe versus Wade. Now, let me be clear upfront. Roe versus Wade basically allowed for abortions up until, well, actually it’s Dovey Bolton. Roe v. Wade allowed for abortions through the first trimester for no reason or for any reason. Second and third trimester abortions were allowed up until viability. That’s when the baby can live outside the womb. That’s what RO did. And Doe versus Bolton. So Kamala Harris says, we’re going to restore these things, but she doesn’t talk about the limits. And there are limits because viability was the limit and states enacted restrictions on abortion when it came to late term abortions. She just doesn’t want to answer ’em. Which leaves the door wide open for abortions up to the very moment of birth. No restrictions, no limitations. Alright, continue on

Margaret Brennan (03:40):

To be anywhere between 20 to 24 weeks. And

Mark Harrington (03:44):

That’s reasonable.

Kamala Harris (03:44):

So no, no, no, no, no. Let me be

Margaret Brennan (03:48):

Very clear. The Women’s Health Protection Act,

Mark Harrington (03:49):

Let me be very clear.

Kamala Harris (03:51):

Very clear. From day one, the president has been clear, I have been clear, we need to put back the protections that are in Roe v. Wade into law since the Supreme Court took it. Congress has the power and ability to pass legislation to put those protections back in law, and Joe Biden will sign that bill.

Mark Harrington (04:13):

Alright, stop there. So she talks about how Roe v Wade was overturned and now the Congress can enact laws on abortion. This is true. So can the state legislatures, right? The truth of the matter is she doesn’t want to restore Roe v. Wade. They want to go far beyond Roe with what they have called the Women’s Health Protection Act. There is a mouthful for you. Isn’t that? It’s just all about abortion. It’s just euphemisms for abortion. The Women’s Health Protection Act basically has no limitations on abortion, which means that you could drive a Mack truck through the law allowing abortions up to the Marona birth. No one denies it and Kamala Harris won’t deny it because she won’t put any limits. Why wouldn’t she just say, we’re going to put a limit on ad viability? Why won’t she say that? And the reason is she wants abortion unrestricted up till birth. Go ahead and continue on. And this is again, Kamala Harris on c b s News Face the Nation where their not answers on abortion.

Kamala Harris (05:13):

That is what we want. But does

Margaret Brennan (05:15):

It need to be specific in terms of defining where that guarantee goes up to and where it does not

Mark Harrington (05:23):

Stop there? Give Margaret Brennan some credit here. Now she’s a lib. She’s probably pro-abortion, but she’s asking for the second time, maybe third in this interview, where are the limits? How hard is this to answer? If you are going to put some into fact, of course Kamala Harris can’t do that. Go ahead and continue on.

Kamala Harris (05:44):

We need to put back in place

Mark Harrington (05:46):

Of Rosa Finger. You are

Margaret Brennan (05:47):

Not for this question. I love it,

Kamala Harris (05:51):

But we’re not trying to do anything that did not exist before June of last year.

Margaret Brennan (05:58):

Wrong. It wasn’t crafted into law. And that’s why I’m asking you for the specifics there, because Republicans say the lack of a precise date in cutting it off. You know this, they say that allows Democrats to perform abortions up until birth, which is

Kamala Harris (06:15):


Margaret Brennan (06:16):

Statistically not

Mark Harrington (06:17):

Accurate. If it’s ridiculous, stop there. If it’s ridiculous, then why not put a limit on it? If it’s ridiculous, it’s not ridiculous because we know they don’t want any limits whatsoever. Just saying it’s ridiculous doesn’t mean it is. You have to put some limits in the law that they want to pass. As Women’s Health Protection Act has absolutely no limitations on abortion all the way up to birth, and they want you to pay for it with your tax dollars. Go ahead, continue on

Kamala Harris (06:48):

The mischaracterization of the point. No, the point is,

Mark Harrington (06:52):

The point is for the fourth time here, she goes,

Kamala Harris (06:55):

We need to put into law the protections of Roe versus Wade.

Mark Harrington (07:00):

Oh my gosh, how many times does she have to repeat that and never answers the question? And again, I give it to Margaret Brennan here for at least trying to keep her on subject and she refuses to answer. But this is the way it is across the board with pro-abortion advocates with the Democrat Party. They will not talk about any limitations anytime. And the reason for that is they don’t want any. Well, we all know that Democrats want to legalize abortion up to the very moment of birth. And that’s why people like Kamala Harris won’t answer direct questions about limitations when they would draw the line because they don’t want to draw the line. And so we’re going to talk about that today. What is abortion? Now, if you watch my program, you listen to us. And here at Created Equal, we’re talking about this all the time.


In fact, we are showing abortion on college campuses and all across America. That’s what we do to stimulate dialogue on abortion. But I think what I haven’t done most recently is just talked about abortion. What does it do? What does it do to an unborn child? What are the quote procedures used to kill babies? And so that’s what we’re going to do today. I’m going to share with you a presentation that I give at the town halls here in the state of Ohio. And in that presentation I talk about the reality of abortion. I’m going to give you some numbers that I want you to memorize because numbers matter. But most importantly, I want you to understand the actual procedure so you can describe them to anybody who might not believe that abortion kills a baby. It’s an act of violence that kills a child.


So that’s what we’re going to do. So what I’d like to do here is we’re just basically going to go through this presentation and explain the numbers and what the abortion procedures are. So here’s the premise. The big idea, if you will, is this, that when is known, abortion dies. When abortion is known, abortion dies. And the issue for us is we need to show abortion to as many people as we can. Now, everyone has seen at one time in another, this picket sign says Abortion kills children. It’s used at the annual life chain in October and it’s a good sign, but it’s really presenting a presupposition. It’s not making an argument, it’s just saying abortion kills children. Well, you need to prove that. And in order to prove that, we have to use visuals. Visuals are important to prove that. And so what I want to do here, we’re going to use some visuals, things that you can remember easily when you’re talking to people about abortion.


The first is this, in the state of Ohio, which is where the battle is right now, because the constitutional amendment here, this is for all the marbles in the state of Ohio. Currently, there are approximately 60 children are killed every single day in the state. Now, what does that look like? If we were to give you a picture, the best way I can describe it is in terms of school children and busloads of school children. Basically one full busload of elementary school children are killed every single day in Ohio, one of these school buses holds 72 children. It’s approximately as close to about 60. Think about that one every single day. Now, if you extrapolate that out for the year 365 days, what does that mean?


21,000, sorry. 813 children are killed by abortion every single day. I’m sorry, year in the state of Ohio. Now, what’s that look like when it comes to elementary school busloads of children? Well, that equals 300, 300 elementary school buses of children are killed every single year by abortion here in the state of Ohio. So I want you to just remember that a school busload of children is killed every day and 300 are killed every year just in our state. Now, if you take that nationally, what does that mean for us as a nation, as in America, the numbers are staggering. 862,320 children are killed by abortion every single year here in the United States. And what does that mean? That means two times the population of greater Cleveland, Ohio. In other words, an entire city like Cleveland is wiped out two times the population every single year staggering numbers, and sometimes those numbers just kind of wash over us, and it’s hard to comprehend.


We have no way to basically fathom the devastation that that causes to a nation. Of course it does to the children. It was Joseph Stalin who said, ironically, that one death is a tragedy. But a million deaths is a statistic. And it’s true when we talk about 65 million children who are killed by abortion every single year, it’s a statistic. But if you think of one child, that is a tragedy. Now let’s get into the actual abortion procedures. How do women commit abortions in America? The first way is what we call pill abortion or chemical abortion. That is the most common type of abortion in the world, and for that matter, for in the United States and in Ohio, currently 47% of all abortions are committed by a pill abortion. Now, how does it work? How does it work? By the way, this image here is taken from the movie unplanned, which if you have not seen, you should.


This is a horrific scene in which a woman has a pill abortion, and this is what it looks like. In fact, our homes, our apartments, the bathrooms of these homes and apartments are now abortion clinics in America. Half of all abortions are committed by pill abortions. And how’s it work? There is no physician oversight, number one, and their bedroom becomes the abortion clinic and is used. There are two different types of drugs that are used to cause the chemical abortion. The first is what we call Mifa Prestone mfa. Prestone used to be called r u 4 86 before the Food and Drug Administration approved the drug. And what that does is it blocks progesterone, which leads to the breakdown of the uterine linings. And this is so that if the unborn child is conceived, tries to implant in the mom’s uterus and is starved to death, starved at typically taking the life of the child, often suffocated.


And then there’s a second drug as part of this two drug regimen called, and that causes contractions so that the mother gives birth, induces birth, and the baby is then thrown down the toilet, swirled down the toilet. So it’s not hyperbole to say that the sewers of our cities in America are running red with the blood of the unborn, 50% of all abortions and the babies end up in the sewer systems. That’s what’s going on, folks. That’s the truth. Alright, so that’s the pill. Abortion or chemical abortion, again, the most widely used form of killing children today. The second type of procedure is what we call A D N C, abortion or dilation and cure. Now what I’m going to do is I’m going to show you some medical diagram. It’s kind of graphic, but if you tune into this program, I show these images and that’s for good reason because you have to see it to believe it.


42% of all abortions are committed using the dilation, securage, abortion or D N C. And how’s it work? Well, the mom’s cervix is dilated number one or forced to open. Then a suction catheter, as you can tell by the diagram, is inserted into the uterus and that suction catheter is 10 to 20 times more powerful than a household vacuum. Now just think about that being inserted into a mom’s womb and the baby is sucked out and it shreds the baby’s soft tissue and sucks it out and basically into a glass jar or something that is nearby the operation table. And that’s how A D N C abortion takes place. And 42% of all Ohio abortions are done through A D N C abortion. Alright, the next type of abortion is what we call A D N E, abortion or dilation and evacuation. Again, I’m going to show you a medical diagram so you understand it.


11% of all abortions are committed this way in the state of Ohio, according to the Ohio Department of Health. And once again, the mom’s uterus is dilated or forced open. The abortionist rips the baby piece by piece, rips the baby apart inside the mom’s womb, and then reassembles the parts on a table adjacent to the operation table. And he does that because he wants to make sure that he got everything. So he basically reassembles the baby on the table nearby. That’s a dilation and evacuation abortion. 11% of all Ohio abortions are done that way. So whether it’s a pill abortion, whether it is a g and C abortion, or whether it’s a d and e abortion, the baby is decapitated, dismembered, disempowered, and then discarded either into the medical waste bin where a medical waste so called medical waste company will pick it up and incinerated or ends up being flushed down the toilet and becoming part of our sewer system.


Alright, the fourth type of abortion, since we talked pill, D n c deity, and now we’re talking about induction procedure or induction abortion. These are done in late term abortions and late term abortions are typically understood to take place between 20 weeks and up. All right? We could also consider possibly 15 weeks up. Any child that can feel pain typically is what we consider a late term abortion or after the point of viability. And right now viability is anywhere from 20 to 24 weeks. So if you would go ahead and play this, this is a video that was created by live action, our good friends there with a former abortion abortionist who performed these types of abortions. She’s going to explain what a late term abortion or induction procedure is like. Go ahead and play that clip.

Video (18:36):

I have induction abortions generally done from 22 weeks to term at 39 weeks because the child is so large and developed an abortion procedure at this point takes two to three days to complete. And due to the risks and the need for monitoring, this procedure is generally done in the hospital or a surgery center on day one, Mitrione is given orally. Mitrione blocks, the pregnancy hormone, progesterone causing the lining of the uterus to degenerate starving the fetus of vital nutrients and oxygen. Mitrione alone doesn’t necessarily kill the fetus. So fetal demise is often induced beforehand. This is often only done for babies. 20 weeks or older. A syringe with a large needle is filled with a drug called digoxin. Digoxin is used to treat heart problems, but an overdose of digoxin will cause fetal cardiac arrest. A long needle is inserted through the woman’s abdomen or vagina, and the digoxin is injected into the fluid surrounding the fetus.


Under ultrasound guidance, the fetus doesn’t die immediately, which is why this is normally done one or two days beforehand for the drug to be more effective, the abortion doctor can also inject the digoxin directly into the fetus, targeting either the body, heart, or umbilical vein. Potassium chloride can also be used to induce fetal demise more immediately. The fetus usually dies within 24 hours of the injection of digoxin. If the fetus doesn’t die within 24 hours, the injection can be repeated. Death is normally confirmed by ultrasound before the start of delivery. On day 2, 24 to 36 hours after the miop pristine, the woman is given misoprostol either orally or vaginally, causing her to go into labor. The misoprostol dose can be repeated every three hours up to five times. Usually after 24 hours of starting the misoprostol, the woman will vaginally deliver the fetus. If the woman is having trouble delivering, she may be given a synthetic hormone called Pitocin to promote labor. Once the fetus and the placenta have been delivered and the bleeding is under control, the abortion is complete.

Mark Harrington (20:46):

It’s hard to fathom. We can talk about this type of thing in clinical terms with a former abortionist who’s wearing a white coat. This is reproductive healthcare. Seriously, we’re taking a needle and injecting the Jin, which causes a heart attack in the baby and then delivering the baby to sometimes not dead. I mean it kills the baby typically, but these babies can live outside the womb. This is what we’re doing and our hospitals and clinics across this country, and yet we have people like Kamala Harris not willing to answer the question, how barbaric are we that we’re permitting this? It’s unbelievable, friends, unbelievable. Now, just to be clear, we talk, the other side will say, well, late term abortions aren’t a thing very often, and they’re made up by the pro-life people and the Republican party and et cetera, et cetera. It’s all a lie because according to the Centers for Disease Control, just in Ohio, after 21 weeks in twenty twenty, a hundred and thirteen, late term abortions after 21 weeks were performed here, and that’s in the state.


Now you might say, oh, that’s a small number. Really? Well, one of them’s too many. Think about it. We’re doing this to 113 children in this state, and after 16 weeks, 1,218 children were killed either using the D N E, which I explained to you, or this induction method. It’s happening in our own state. If you go extrapolate that all the way across the country, there are about 4,300 late term abortions that’s after viability in the country, and that performed after 21 weeks. Now people say, well, that’s a small fraction. It doesn’t really matter if it’s just one that’s too many. Why are we saying that? They’ll say, well, it’s because of fetal abnormalities, right? Well, according to sea, ever coup, who was the surgeon general back in the day when we were having debates over partial birth abortion, he basically said that there’s never a case in which, let me read from his quote here.


He said, I’ve never known of one instance where the child had to be aborted to save the mother’s life. In other words, why don’t we just deliver these children full term with a C-section cesarean section and give them the care they need? There’s no reason to kill ’em other than one reason they want a dead baby. The mom wants it and the abortion wants it, or abortionist wants it. That’s why, because otherwise they could be delivered and placed for adoption. That’d be the more humane thing to do. But unfortunately, that’s not where we are. So that’s the induction abortion. I’ve gone over all four types of so-called procedures to kill children that are used all across America and for that matter across the world and in the state of Ohio, just f y i. The other side is saying, late term abortions don’t happen. What I just told you isn’t true.


And they have to say that because most Americans, a good majority, think what you just saw on the screen here, especially with late term abortion induction procedures, that that should not happen. It’s too extreme, too barbaric. And this proposed amendment to the Ohio Constitution would enshrine abortion not just after conception or fertilization, but all the way up to birth. There’ll be no limitations of restrictions on abortion whatsoever, and they want to be certain of that. And their own rhetoric has basically backed that up because they basically say that viability is between the doctor so-called the abortionist and the mother. And so basically that opens the door to abortions up to birth. So that’s why we think it’s the case, and we’re making that case, and you really just have to listen to those who perform them to know that it’s a thing. Martin Haskell’s an abortionist here in the state of Ohio.


He said, most of my abortions are elective and thereafter 24 weeks of gestation. In other words, he’s not even talking about any fetal problems here, deformities or what have you. He’s talking about perfectly healthy babies that are being killed using the induction method right here in our state. And if you don’t think that’s going to expand, then you got something coming. If they’re going to legalize abortion and it shrine in our constitution, there’ll be no limits. And Ohio will become California. Ohio will become a destination state for late term abortion. And guys like Martin Haskell will take off with their killing business. And this will be a destination for people like for him and others who want to come here and perform these types of barbaric procedures. So that’s the bottom line. The reality of abortion. People need to see it. You need to understand it.


You got to know the numbers, and you got to be able to describe to people what happens to a baby during an abortion. So hopefully this is helpful. And friends, if you want to come to one of our town halls, we’re going to be holding these all across the state of Ohio. You can go to create equal.org/abortion amendment and just let us know you want to attend one. I’ll be speaking at these throughout the fall up until election day on November 8th. And remember, friends, we need people to come to Ohio to be part of our door to door campaign. We are running it here at Created Equal are basically managing, operating, organizing, and deploying all the ground forces, ground troops, if you want to call it, to go door to door here in the state of Ohio. So you can get ahold of us by going to created equal.org/abortion amendment that’s created equal.org/abortion amendment to be involved in our canvassing efforts here in the state of Ohio. We’ll see you next time. God bless you. God bless America. And remember America to Bless God.

Narrator (27:14):

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